You should use Google translate or something alike because the site is not in English

http://gimpmodify.blogspot.it/

There are several interesting py plugin (also posted in the plugin registry )and "GIMPmadify " a "modified" version of gimp, not sure how modified but there are links to Video that should give more details

Anybody did try it ?
And somebody understand what the differences with the standard version ?
ON the gimp plugin registry i found only 2 scripts but looking to the video seems are much more

Hello,

I have tried GimpModify there are 2 weeks ago, I have found it via Youtube.
I have contacted HaryArt in order to obtain the password and to better understand GimpModify.
HaryArt, Graphic Designer from Malaysia, has based GimpModify on Gimp Painter (Gimp 2.6) and combine GPS with his presets on it. His presets seems to be more intuitive.
He as added his own plugins with some of best plugins of Gimp, also GAP, Gimpscripters...., PSPI is included with some 8bf filters (ex GML Matting).
The goal of HaryArt is to provide easy use Gimp for beginners that Photoshop users can retrieve their habit, the display is also virtually identical (same for shortcuts).
GimpModify can find pleasant sensations in painting, there are also many dedicated plugins.
I understand that it was easier for impressions.

Some screenshots of my Gimp Modify

Very very interesting, i searched everywhere a build of gimpainter based on gimp 2.8 and from what i see in the video also the interface is clean and his additional script and preset seems good

I will try to install ...i saw only 1 download link there is only a 32bit version ?

I should search better , should be also a link for the source code , ...often the translation from Malaysan
is not too clear.

But it really seems worth a better look
And pspi should be replaced by Shell Out, maybe there is even some light weight and OS viewer supporting 8bf that may be included, but PSPI should be not there, may be offered ONLY as separate download

For the rest looks really promising

I'm not sure that you speak of the same videos which I think currently but the last videos of HaryArt on Youtube is for promoting his last plugins, it's not for GimpModify, It's Gimp 2.8 with the same display of GimpModify, ie with the display of Photoshop (Tango). I had the same thought that you watching the videos, I have asked to HaryArt, who has confirmed it.

There is not yet any version based on Gimp 2.8 for GimpModify, I think HaryArt wait the next release of Getchar (Creator of Gimp Painter).

It seems that Getchat is near to provide a new version de GimpPainter based on Gimp 2.8

http://www.youtube.com/user/Getchar?feature=watch

But Getchat does not communicate much about his work, it is surprising to see that it does not respond to comments on his videos of artists like David Revoy or Ramon Miranda, and it is not over sharer with developers of Gimp, who wished to include GimpPainter in Gimp 2.8 or 3.

The last version available about Gimp Painter is only for Linux and proposed by David Revoy, I don't know how to use it.
This is the link for the presentation http://www.davidrevoy.com/?article122/g ... -8dev-test
This is the link for the Compilation http://www.davidrevoy.com/data/document ... -1204.html

There are version of gimppainter based on gimp 2.8, may be not official unix or windows Build but there is code

The code of gimpainter in the git is kept in sync with Gimp , if were not recent changes is because the difference consist in 2 extra tool , and there was nobody anymore nothing to update about-

This from what i heard i was hoping somebody building it , and when i saw this "gimpmodify" i hoped was builded over 2.8 (also on the base of the video you quoted

There are 2 things in gimpmodify that should not be there because contrasting with the letter ,for sure with the written rules of GPL in the first case and with the spirit , ( at least the sprit, here not sure if breaks also some written rules ) of Open Source

I would have preferred discuss with the author, i tried to contact him and i send long ago the link for this discussion and he never replied so i will not wait more

1),
PSPI should NOT be included, BUT is included
if he want he may create a smart installer that first ask to install gimp with the GPL licence and as separate and optional step offer to install another product with a difference license...BUT they could not be bundled togheter is a clear violation of GPL licence

2)
The second point may look more subtle but is even less nice :
GIMPmodify is ...Locked, and to to be activated must be requested a activaction key

Here i found irrelevant how may be easy got the key ,if the process is free or not, what is relevant to me is that this IS a NAG and FOSS should be Nagware free ... simply as that
again here i don?t speak as a lawyer but as user, and i am don't refer to some written rules but just to decency

for those 2 reason i believe GimpModify violate gimp GPL license



I wai

Agree about PSPI, it should be banned from the use, even under GIMP, not because of the GPL, but because of the copyright violations of PS-compatible plugin authors, which were meant to be used by PS only.
As for the activation key, not agree, as GPLv3 allows you to modify free software and distribute it any way you want, even sell it without providing the source code.

NO , allow even to sell the compiled version but the source code should be always freely available , that is really the basic point

but i was not complaining for the price AFAIK the activation key is free, i was complaining for the nag that something different

I'm stealing this interface setup, placing the canvas full window under toolboxes, I don't know how I didn't think about it before. (:

edit: well it's not that handy when you need 2.6 untabbed clone view but still I'll use it for single view workflow.

I agree with you PC and also K1TesseraEna.
For PSPI, it helped me to see and understand how PSPI should be installed because I never succeded to intall it on my computer my-self.
However for the activation of GimpModify, I believe that it's only to know how many users have tried it, and maybe to answer more quickly to the questions of users like me.
If now HaryArt doesn't reply longer to GimpModify's users, I don't understand his goal.

In this post most interesting is Gimp-Painter 2.8.

For Ubuntu there is no problem.
For Windows - Partha PLIS!

Here is the discussion about it on the gimp-mailing list
The last entry by Jernej Simončič (member of the GIMP dev team)
GPLv3 gives more flexibility, but yes, it was not allowed under GPL and GPLv2.

Here is the discussion about it on the gimp-mailing list
The last entry by Jernej Simončič (member of the GIMP dev team)
It was not allowed under GPL and GPLv2, but GPLv3 gives more flexibility.

No it doesn't. If you sell GPL (any version) software, you MUST provide (at least a link to) the source code. If you do any modifications to GPL-licensed source code, you MUST provide the source code to the version that has your modifications in it. That is exactly what the GPL is FOR.

I think this should be reported to http://gpl-violations.org/

From the mailing list:



The last post you refer to (emphasis mine):



So yes, selling the software is allowed. Source code must still be provided, whatever version of the GPL. The source code does not have to be in the same place as the binary you provide, but if you make any changes to the software, then you must provide the source code to the modified version, or point to a place that has that source code. It doesn't have to be provided in the same exact website or physical server, but it MUST be provided. That is the entire point of the GPL.

Since this is a modified version of GIMP that is being offered, ie. it differs from the "official" version, a source code should be provided to it (in some way). Anyone who downloads the binary has a right to see the source code to that same binary, otherwise it's a violation of the GPL.

@dd You have convinced me, it is required by the GPL to provide the source code. BTW, does the GPL say HOW you have to provide it? Does it necessarily have to be in the downloadable form. Gimpmodify website offers the CD, if there is no source code also, this guy surely violates the GPL license terms and has to be reported.

1 )
Beyond doubt the source code should be provided because IS modificated and not only by adding a script or plugin, should be something deeper if include Gimppainter tool
on the site there is not any link, ironically there is a clear reference to gpl
http://gimpmodify.blogspot.it/p/gimpmodify.html

2)
Not only Gimp but also gimpainter and Ramon miranda GPS are included, that is clearly acknowledged somewhere along the lines of the product description but not where it should
(again here http://gimpmodify.blogspot.it/p/gimpmodify.html there is no any reference or link for gimpainter or GPS)

3)
PSPI could not be packed within gimp ,but only as separate download
I believe here tolerable a smart installer that doesn't contain both, but after gimp install ask the permission to download and install , under a different license , also PSPI
BUT as it is NO... this is another clear violation

4)
And yes even if FOSS gimp may even be sold
But is not this case this product is free , require a activation code to unlock that is also free

Personally i found less irritant a prodoct with a price then a nag, as i see IN THIS CASE the activation code

Activation codes may be fine to reactivate trialware of commercial product , a very different matter, and in that contest is not a nag but part of the deal (you may use for 30 days, to use more you should pay to activate..more then a correct deal for commercial programs )

Here i see as a nag , that maybe is not forbidden in the GPL , but on this last point i was not invoking any law or licence , just giving a user feedback

Again i would prefer hear the author before reporting, i must say i only try only once and maybe i used a wrong form (i could chose 3 type , the differences between the 3 would be crystal clear if i was able to read Malaysian...alas i am not so i just chosed a random one )

maybe somebody else want to try ?

In theory should be included, or should be a FREE download link

yes may be in the CD but i believe the CD to be sold, while the source code download should be free
(again the program may be sold,but the source code always provided and for free )

PC, if I understood correctly, you downloaded executable file from that site, but when you try to run it it is asking for the activation key?

I don't think he sells the CDs. It clearly asks for postal charges reimbursement only.

yes
if it is something to block use seems poorly done , the only thing blocked seems the library to open/save "gz" compressed file. ...not so often used and easy to replace.

But the intention apparently was to lock the GimpModify and allow only its use after only "activation "

It's just a password, which will copied and pasted during the installation, I have asked it to the creator who has replied to me few hours after my request, maybe jetlag between France and Malay hasn't helped to receive it more quickly.
I don't think that HaryArt has bad intentions, I see it more as a way to control who using his product but the way to do is a little awkward.