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 Post subject: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:46 pm  (#1) 
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New version,thank to Samj everything

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-pa ... z/download

A very important change, is how to start gimp:
Unzip
Open the program folder, and see the screenshot below that show the possible configuration you may chose for start

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Start the standard version (almost standard, include also , gmic Ufraw and the Help)
Demarrer_gimp.bat

[b]Start "Gimp-Windows friendly in English
(so will full extra as mathmap , gap, userfilter, and so on)
Start_gimp_friendly_english.bat

Start "Gimp-Windows friendly in French (so will full extra as mathmap , gap, userfilter, and so on)
Start_gimp_friendly french.bat

Start "Gimp-Windows friendly for other languages (so will full extra as mathmap , gap, userfilter, and so on)
Start_gimp_friendly french.bat



Mind that since it include also the Help, Python, and a bunch of useful plugin (UFraw, GMIC, MathMap, the UserFilter with all existing FilterFactory filter converted in its own format, Resynthesizer, Liquid Rescale, GAP and much more) its file size is quite huge (about 185 MB...) even if is minimal if compared to the 1.8GB of last Photoshop

So..Main differences from standard version

1) it doesn't force unistall of previous version and may run alongside gimp 2.6
2) include python support out of the box
3) may be used ALSO from external drive as a portable version
4) the gimp Help is preinstalled
5) the most useful extra plugin a script for commune use are preinstalled, list is long anyway the main are

GMIC
UFraw
MathMap
LensFun
Liquid rescale
Resynthesizer
LensFun
GAP (the gimp animation package)
Filter factory Converter (aka UserFilter)
Gurm
Shell Out
Layer Effect
Much More

VERY IMPORTANT
do not start gimp clicking on gimp.exe but how explained in the beginning

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[size=150]Now something important if you want add your favorite plugin script brush,etc or remove something there (ie GAP if you are not interested to animation)


1) as far for plugin and script it is very probable what you want add is already included and in a more recent version so, check that first

2) the Place for all user add on depend also from the configuration you used to start:
supposing you have chosen "Gimp Friendly" then is PhotoComix, that were i place all the extra and organized space for more



More exactly look in the subfolders of , as brushes , scripts plug-ins ..
: see below


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There also EVERYTHING i added that was not part of the gimp core
Now please look how is organized each of the folder marked in red, i use as example the "scripts"folder


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everything inside the "_Preinstalled" subfolder a, will be loaded, let say everything there is switched ON

On the contrary everything inside the Not_installed_Ready folder will be NOT loaded so switched off

So if you want temporary unistall some script , plugin or whatelse, you may move in that Not-Installed_ready folder
..and vice versa
(if instead you want definitively unistall...just delete the file(s) :hehe )

In _Preinstalled there is also a empty folder called "Ready_for_more":
in case you want add something, in the example i am doing some script that doesn't fit any other category, that is a empty container ready for you

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This version was build on top of Samj 64bit Portable http://samjcreations.blogspot.it/ (again ALSO portable work very well from the main HD )

Its portability derive from a very powerful and flexible utility from Samj called Maringouin, to use this gimp version you don't need to know more about Maringouin

But if you are a power user (or as example you want set up GMIC to be fully portable) you may wish have a look to samj blog (again http://samjcreations.blogspot.it/ ) to see how to use it at full power

LAST ,IMPORTANT FOR 7 And VISTA USERS:
Unzip Gimp where you wish ...just C:,or Document, or even Pictures, or what else, everywhere BUT NOT IN PROGRAM FILES
(even less in Program Files (x86) )





that's all folk..happy gimping

If any problem do NOT disturb the developers but post here below

Happy gimping

PS

32bit version coming soon

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:27 pm  (#2) 
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NICE! definitly gonna use this as my new Portable. But why the demarre_gimp.bat instead of Gimp.exe ?

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:12 pm  (#3) 
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because portability.
Directly called gimp.exe would not find python and its own filters, script etc

demarrer-gimp is the french equivalent of "start gimp" , i used a build from Samj, ( that is French )

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:19 pm  (#4) 
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PC I extracted your Gimp 64 over in Windows but I don't know how to put the scripts, plug-ins, gradients, patterns and all the rest of the stuff into the menu's. I see they are all there in the files I extracted but I don't know how to put them in Gimp.

I read your page over several times but still didn't figure it out. :oops: :oops: :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:25 pm  (#5) 
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Waiting for the 32 bit version please. :)

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:28 pm  (#6) 
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I extracted the file to a separate hard drive and started it by clicking Demarrer_Gimp.bat as you specified in the instructions. However, the problem from the last build of yours that I tested is still there in that it will not open .jpg files. It says it's an unknown file type.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:44 pm  (#7) 
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Molly they should go there automatically at soon you start gimp as i advised, the files are already where they should be

@Lacertile
i hope is not a problem with locale (with the languages) i am looking to a alternative just in case

Anyway , could you have a look to the menu ... there are filters in the filter menu ?
There is a "video" menu ?

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:57 pm  (#8) 
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PhotoComix wrote:
@Lacertile
i hope is not a problem with locale (with the languages) i am looking to a alternative just in case

Anyway , could you have a look to the menu ... there are filters in the filter menu ?
There is a "video" menu ?


When I click on filters, there are no filters listed at all.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:58 pm  (#9) 
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PC, None of the files are where they should be, Everything is empty, brushes, scripts, patterns, gradients, plug-ins, Script-Fu isn't there. I can't use paths, it throws an error. There is something in your directions about turning them on but I don't see anywhere to do that. All the scripts and files are in the extracted folder but they don't show up in Gimp.

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:18 pm  (#10) 
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too bad, i may imagine what happened, as i wrote i used Samj build and samj adapted her own utility called called Maringouin, to allow portability

the problem is that the utility is quite complex and documented only in French that is not a language i know (i used a google translation but is now evident that google translation did not help me much ) and is evident that mereinguin was overzelous and noticed also the Italian locale of my computer adapting its inner path to that locale

at least this my guess i can't imagine any other reason for that (EXCEPT LOAD GIMP CLICKING ON gimp.exe, but Lacertile say he didn't)

Well i am looking for a fix, and in the while testing a alternative solution...so please a bit of patience as i said was ready for testing

(if you read french maybe you may help, the samj portable version that i used and her Maringouin utility that she used to kept the pieces togheter are documented here http://samjcreations.blogspot.it/ and in the linked pages

i will be back at soon i find a solution

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:11 am  (#11) 
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It's doing the same as your last windows friendly version (have you downloaded and tried), the preferance files are all wrong, i.e. this leads as molly stated to no brushes patterns scripts or plugins

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are wrong because something screwed up portability, and yes may be the same issue because also that build was from samj and used the same utility, what baffle me is that it works from any external drive i tried

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:27 am  (#13) 
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Can you guys look at Edit>Pref> and look in each resource folder and see if the default link is there.
Not the links to the added resources but the actual program directories.
For instance look for a brushes link to the DEFAULT brush directory. If it isn't present add them to every resource path.

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:02 am  (#14) 
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Rod wrote:
Waiting for the 32 bit version please. :)

Confused as I thought 2.8 was ready?

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
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Deblk wrote:
Rod wrote:
Waiting for the 32 bit version please. :)

Confused as I thought 2.8 was ready?


I am referring to PC's new friendly Portable version with all the add ons. :)
I found one through Sam though so i am all set.
http://samjcreations.blogspot.com/2012/ ... -bits.html

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@ PhotoComix

There are problems with your version of the directory "pref1".
I propose to help you to create your version.
I can, for example, adapt the utility "maringouin" to solve some problems of mappings.
If you can describe your wishes would make the adaptation of "maringouin" easier.
There may be users who also have special requests ...


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PhotoComix this is what appears after I run first time, 'last gimp' ? hmm that should not be there

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:14 am  (#18) 
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Samj your help is heartily welcome :jumpclap
, just now i was starting to wrote you a message about, i went back here just to copy the link and your message was a very nice surprise. :tyspin

if you already downloaded i may remove the file from sourceforge to avoid deluded users (the title here say clearly was for testing but anyway better remove)

just let me know, here or with PM as you prefer

@ Graechan

did you saw Samj message ? Just a bit of patience
About the path you refer is not just a simple error at may seems, the error come because i didn't fully understand how the samj utility works (and the fact that in my test everything was still working even if moved on external drive and different directory lead me to think errouneusly that everything was allright )

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 Post subject: Re: NEW- Gimp-2.8_Windows-Friendly_64bit ready for testing
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:04 am  (#19) 
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Bonjour PhotoComix,

Here are some quick fixes (and temporary) to run your archive.
In the directory "pref1" you must remove 3 files:
- gimprc
- pluginrc
- themerc

I have a doubt on the file "tags.xml" but I should be doing more testing.

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For changes to "maringouin" I suggest you make a special command line to start Gimp (example : start maringouin_2_8.exe PhotoComix )

This would create a preferences directory dedicated to your changes.
I could also change the addressing mode of the 3 files that cause problems.
You can edit the content of these three files according to your wishes.
What do you think of these proposals?


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:01 am  (#20) 
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Bonjour Samj

Quote:
For changes to "maringouin" I suggest you make a special command line to start Gimp (example : start maringouin_2_8.exe PhotoComix )

This would create a preferences directory dedicated to your changes.
I could also change the addressing mode of the 3 files that cause problems.
You can edit the content of these three files according to your wishes.
What do you think of these proposals?


Excellent !
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For changes to "maringouin" I suggest you make a special command line to start Gimp (example : start maringouin_2_8.exe PhotoComix )


well i am not so sure how to make it


a question,just to be sure
once done as you proposed the modified gimp would run also from other 64 bit computer (that may use also different locale ) without mapping issues ?

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