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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:20 pm  (#21) 
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Well shoot; another issue now arises. If userfilter works, it prevents PSPI to work and vise versa. Going trump PSPI over userfilter since those filters are more important to my workflow. Oh well. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:08 pm  (#22) 
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i didn't try but from the screenshoot i have doubts that the jpg problems was really fixed:
sure the file size preview seems more reasonable but looking better i believe is still very incorrect.

If the same file is of 66.3 kb saved a 60 can't be of only 76 at 100...but at least 3 x bigger

The curve is not linear as example a file saved at 96 is about half of the size of the same saved at 100,not sure how much less would be at 60 i never used a so high compression but should be much less then the the half...

A simple way to test would be confront that with the result of the RIOT save for the web plugin that give more reliable info

PS obviously if the screenshoot doesn't refer to the same file...never mind
But if is the same i believe that the file size reported can't be trusted in any way

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:51 pm  (#23) 
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Maybe, maybe not.
But it's somewhat academic.
When gimp tells me, the size will be ~200Kb, then the result is ~200Kb
And when it tells me, the size will be ~80Kb, then it is 80Kb.
So, the resulting preview size is correct 'per definitionem'

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:59 am  (#24) 
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Every system (computer) is different - for some work - not for others.
Solution - experiment - and I know the answer - share your way ....

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:18 am  (#25) 
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Solution for LqR plugin and 64-bit GIMP

Download Partha's 64-bit build of Liquid Rescale, extract gimp-lqr-plugin.exe plugin and then download the attached dll and place it in the same plugins directory as gimp-lqr-plugin.exe (had a completely different program that had this dll file which LqR was looking for which is cool). It works; trust me. :)

Partha's 64-bit plugins: http://www.partha.com/downloads/Gimp-2. ... s-64bit.7z


Attachments:
liblqr-1-0.zip [55.94 KiB]
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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:43 am  (#26) 
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I went ahead and created a bugzilla with this strange gimprc file behavior w.r.t. the user filter path and PSPI filter path. Below's the entry. :)

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674096

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:38 am  (#27) 
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you got a reply with a relevant question

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:53 am  (#28) 
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I think i will just wait until Gimp-2.8 is nice and stable :lol

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:51 am  (#29) 
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The only issue that makes it not what I had with GIMP 2.6.12 Rod is PSPI/User Filter. I did submit a bugzilla since I believe it's a bug with how gimprc file is handled by GIMP rather then the plugins themselves. I can live with having to poing to the guf files each time since I rarely use the user filter; I need PSPI. Other then that, I'm quite happy with 2.8 64-bit stability. Hasn't locked up on me yet after near 3 days of use. I can't say that about GIMP 2.6.12. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:21 am  (#30) 
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Onkel Hatti wrote:
to 2.:

I got the same problem. Libtiff seems only to be used for tiff loading/saving.
Maybe there is a problem with libtiff-5, I don't know.
I renamed libtiff-3.dll to libtiff-5.dll and VOILÀ :-)

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This solution fixed the Tif issue Onkel Hatti. Even fixed mm-filters Sigmoidal Contrast python plugin, but did not fixe mm-filters Lab Curves unfortunately. Guess you can't win them all. lol

I used Partha's Delaboratory's (already had Delaboratory so why not) libtif-3.dll file which I renamed to libtif-5.dll per your post; didn't want to re-download GIMP 2.7 again. lol

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:24 am  (#31) 
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Rod wrote:
I think i will just wait until Gimp-2.8 is nice and stable :lol


Me too Rod

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:37 am  (#32) 
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Ah, come on Rod/Molly. Join the fun. I was getting to be like you and give up on the whole idea of 64-bit GIMP 2.8, but Graechan gave me the motivation to get my hands dirty as soon as he found how to get Mathmap to work. From there, I got into the meat and thanks to folk like MareroQ and Onkel Hatti, got nearly all the bugs out of 2.8 64-bit (at least for me). Even, on my own, figured out how to get LqR to work. It's fun to troubleshoot since you get more insight into the meat of how things work when you do and that helps later in figuring things out for other GIMPy issues, so now, I'm glad I got off my hessitation and delved in, since now, I have a pretty much fully function 64-bit GIMP with all the bells and whistles that I wanted. Also, GIMP 2.8 has yet to freeze on me; that's the most important issue of all. Since it's 64-bit, I can now easily handle huge file size files too. One more benifit; it launches about 3 times faster then my GIMP 2.6x 32-bit version of GIMP (no more coffee breaks for me unfortunately because of that; lol). It's been, so far, a fun adventure. Do look forward to the updates that will later get released of course, but now I'm glad I didn't have to wait. Only real question is why they had so many issues when these issues weren't there with the latest 2.7x beta? Oh well. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:51 am  (#33) 
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Yeah , but i'm just so tired of doing it. :lol
Think i will sit this version out and wait for the devs to fix it.

Looks like you guys have most of the bugs worked out though. :)
Congrats.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:03 pm  (#34) 
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I don't think I could run gimp 2.8 64-bit in Fedora cuz it isn't in the repository, Anyway, even if I could there would be too many things I would have to do to make it work and I am certainly not qualified for that. I will wait for the stable 2.8 if and when it comes to Linux.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:12 pm  (#35) 
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Thanks to MareroQ and HATTI for the TIFF temp fix! I don't use them much anymore but discovered the TIFF bug a couple of days ago with an old scan. How times change, TIFF use to be the go to image format.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:02 pm  (#36) 
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I tried the patches in this link to use lcms-2.3.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674066
I made changes for Linux in them and then patched the relevant gimp-2.8 files.
It compiled and installed ok,but the the slowness problem remained the same.
I wonder if Hartmut Kuhse is gimpchat's Onkel Hatti.
Anyway I am keeping Gimp-2.8 on my separate install w/o color management
because I need the brush dynamics for something I'm working on.
I can move files from one to the other so colors I'll check in 2.6.12.
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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:46 pm  (#37) 
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For the TIFF issue in 2.8 RC1, copy libtiff-3.dll and rename the copy libtiff3.dll. That prevented errors with the Separate+ "separate_import.exe" plugin.

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:51 pm  (#38) 
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lylejk wrote:
Solution for LqR plugin and 64-bit GIMP

Download Partha's 64-bit build of Liquid Rescale, extract gimp-lqr-plugin.exe plugin and then download the attached dll and place it in the same plugins directory as gimp-lqr-plugin.exe (had a completely different program that had this dll file which LqR was looking for which is cool). It works; trust me. :)

Partha's 64-bit plugins: http://www.partha.com/downloads/Gimp-2. ... s-64bit.7z


Lyle,
I tried the above and got the following error:
The program can't start because libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:01 pm  (#39) 
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I'm not muc a guru when it comes to the software side of things unfortunately Charlie. Maybe the software gurus like RobA or Saulgoode can weigh in on this issue. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gimp-2.8-RC1 not stable enough yet.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:09 pm  (#40) 
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Lyle,
Thanks, maybe I can get some help for the following issue. I just installed Partha's 64bit Gimp 2.8.1 over the top of his 2.8.0 version. But now when I go to open a file, the list in the Gimp window only lists .xcf files and will not list any other file type, e.g., jpg. I have the option selected for viewing image file types, not .xcf only.
It was working correctly before I downloaded this latest build.


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