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 Post subject: recreating an ancient tutorial
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:41 am  (#1) 
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in the "make a paisley" thread, lylejk posted a link to this old tut, written for kai's power tools (i used to know kpt as a ps plug-in, but i think it could be used in other ways too?). i was a bit overconfident and said it should be easy enough to recreate that tut in gimp now, with the help of g'mic, but sad to say it wasn't that easy at all!
here are my two best results so far - one has better paisleys and i have done a lot of "manual" work on it between each filter step, the other is perhaps more fun to look at and i just tried to follow the tut as closely as possible without doing any touching up by hand, but i don't think the paisleys look very "paysley-y".

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here are the steps i used for the second of these patterns:
1. spiral gradient from center on empty canvas, then g'mic filter "cartesian transform" under "deformations" (just to get some shapes and colours to start with, you can do that other ways too).
2. g'mic filter "kaleidoscope-symmetry" under "deformations". iterations 11, angle 0, boundaries nearest, mirror forwards or backwards.
3. layer offset by x/2, y/2.
4. "kaleidoscope-symmetry" on offset layer, set "boundaries" to transparent, otherwise the same settings as before.
5. layer offset by x - one third, y - two thirds of image size.
6. gimp filter "whirl and pinch" under "distortions". whirl angle 215, pinch amount 0, radius 0,710.
7. g'mic filter "tileable rotation" under "arrays", default settings.
(8. gimp filter "small tiles" under "map". this has nothing to do with the tutorial, i just liked this pattern better smaller)
edit: might be useful to know i worked on a 1200X1200 px canvas. the original kpt tut is written for a 100X100 px canvas.

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 Post subject: Re: recreating an ancient tutorial
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:59 am  (#2) 
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Very nice designs AnMal.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:08 am  (#3) 
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That look pretty cool AnMal. :jumpclap I have to give it a try.
I wonder if I could also try and make a seamless patterns this way?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:21 am  (#4) 
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Nice Anmal :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:22 am  (#5) 
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molly: thank you!
sallyanne: thanks :)!
wallace: thank you. the whole point of the kpt tut is to get a seamless paisley pattern and the two i've made here are seamless. trouble is, the whirl and pinch filter sometimes distorts the edges of the image too, if the radius is set too high, also, it doesn't always give a symmetric outcome - i don't know exactly what that depends on, so unfortunately i can't say what to do to avoid it. in any case, most of the time i got a seamless result without any touching up needed :).

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:20 am  (#6) 
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AnMal wrote:
wallace: thank you. the whole point of the kpt tut is to get a seamless paisley pattern and the two i've made here are seamless. trouble is, the whirl and pinch filter sometimes distorts the edges of the image too, if the radius is set too high, also, it doesn't always give a symmetric outcome - i don't know exactly what that depends on, so unfortunately i can't say what to do to avoid it. in any case, most of the time i got a seamless result without any touching up needed :).

I understand AnMal and it's worth a try. ;)


Here's one I made using AnMal's tut.
It's not very "paisley like", but it looks nice nonetheless.
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BTW AnMal, the "small tiles" under "map" in step#8 is not a G'MIC filter.

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 Post subject: Re: recreating an ancient tutorial
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:23 pm  (#7) 
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Where did you get the white shirts to do the displacement map work on Wallace? Cool stuff.

As for AnMal's result; fantastic. Now automate it for a lazy filter guy. lol

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:55 pm  (#8) 
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lylejk wrote:
Where did you get the white shirts to do the displacement map work on Wallace? Cool stuff.

As for AnMal's result; fantastic. Now automate it for a lazy filter guy. lol

:)

I've had them for a while and can't remember where I got them from, but here is one of them.
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Another pattern too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:52 pm  (#9) 
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ref: http://seamlesstextures.deviantart.com/ ... -533992116

Thanks Wallace. Now I will need to hunt down some other styles of shirts. lol

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ref: http://seamlesstextures.deviantart.com/ ... -533992116

Thanks Wallace. Now I will need to hunt down some other styles of shirts. lol

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You're welcome Lyle.
Nice looking shirt and pattern too. :bigthup
Good luck finding other shirt styles.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:13 pm  (#11) 
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Someone should make a paisley game. Maybe I should make one.


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merrak wrote:
Someone should make a paisley game. Maybe I should make one.

A paisley game? :puzzled

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As for AnMal's result; fantastic. Now automate it for a lazy filter guy. lol

Lyle Hmmm maybe↑

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:00 am  (#14) 
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Thanks AnMal for your tutorial to get so nice outcome. I did a first try, but I didn't get such a nice one.

Graechan, could you get a script about it? if you can automate the steps that would be great, I think. :hi5


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:36 am  (#15) 
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Issabella wrote:
Thanks AnMal for your tutorial to get so nice outcome. I did a first try, but I didn't get such a nice one.

Graechan, could you get a script about it? if you can automate the steps that would be great, I think. :hi5

I like your design Issabella. :bigthup
I do like colors other then purple and green just happens to be one of them. :hehe

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:01 am  (#16) 
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Wallace wrote:
merrak wrote:
Someone should make a paisley game. Maybe I should make one.

A paisley game? :puzzled


When I look at them, I see a very devious maze. But now I'm not sure I can get the mechanics worked out.


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Thank you Wallace, so kind. :)

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Thank you Wallace, so kind. :)

You're welcome Issabella. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:56 am  (#19) 
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wallace: :mrgreen: nice new clothes, i see! i had no idea my paisley pattern would look that good on a shirt, now i'll have to upload it to my old spoonflower account and order some fabric.
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BTW AnMal, the "small tiles" under "map" in step#8 is not a G'MIC filter.
Image would i ever come up with misinformation of that kind? you must have read that wrong... (meaning: thanks, wallace, the tut has been edited.)
lylejk: you and wallace will set the trends for the upcoming season. but why limit yourself to shirts? by the way, i don't think this technique can be automated - that is, the steps can be made into a filter but you need to see what you're doing with the "whirl and pinch" filter to get paisleys. it's also an advantage if you see what you're doing with the kaleidoscope filter both times and sometimes you need to try different offset values on the layer before you whirl and pinch. i wonder if graechan's post means he's working on something, though - maybe he can solve these issues somehow!
merrak: oh please, please do!! a paisley maze sounds sooo lovely - and very psychedelic :). i'm sure this is what the world needs!
graechan: :jumpclap fun! i like that, obviously this method generates some nice looking patterns even if they're not always paisleys.
issabella: i love your pattern, those green paisleys look great! it is a tricky technique and since most people who tried this tut didn't get paisleys at all i think you should be very proud of your first attempt :).

here's some more of mine. i had funn with this yesterday and came up with some new ideas - i might bombard the gc forum with them if my fiancé can't control me somehow :hehe ...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:14 am  (#20) 
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OK so there really are people addicted to paisley (lucky I am not one of them) :)

Issabella - I missed you of late in the forum but I really do like your results from the tutorial - you always undersell yourself!

Tomorrow I will try the tut out and see what I can come up with.

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